Another dev that think they can mix harem with cuck content, what else in you itinerary dev? cure cancer?
also in this, it was clear that cuck (call it as it is) was the primary content, harem tag are just to bait harem fans to spend money. (dev's own words)
harem and cheating are not mutual exclusive. actually, harem does just mean that the male mc cheats a lot on his love interests with other girls.
and most harem games are not so much harem games, but having a lot of friends with benefits. i do not see exclusivity coming into such relationships by default. so "cheating" is not a concept to apply.
real cuck games are rare. pandoras box comes to mind. go there for the cucking experience.
I think dev you already kinda destroyed your game with the bait that you did ,harem and ntr doesn't bode well choose one route and stay with that but this way you only gonna screw yourself and loose potentional followers it's up to you but a lot of people are thinking the same thing and i completely understand them it happened quite a lot on diffrent games but i wish you luck none the less
No, dev. For too long the AVN scene has been under this false dichotomy, that games must exclusively focus on NTR, or not feature it at all. No other tag or "flavour" is treated like this. Imagine if this applied to anal, cheating, incest, BDSM, MILFs, or any other kink widely present in vanilla harem games without isssue.
You are entitled to have NTR be present in your game as just one more flavor, without being pushed to removing it, or focusing your entire game on it to include it. More than that, I feel such games being made would enrich the AVN scene, and allow it to "heal" from this malady it suffers, where NTR is treated as the plague.
I hate unavoidable things as much as one can dislike them, but when players are given the choice to get or avoid each piece of content, I feel they should simply shut up and play.
I rather when games Focus in doing one thing very good than when they try to make everything poorly.
Also mixim harem and NTR is like mixing a fighting Game whit a Game that your characters try to avoid violence is very contradictory also if you make a Game whit two different paths is like trying to make 2 games at the same time very hard and not Talk whit the problem when one update Focus more in one path than others then the people that his favorites path he is gonna get angey and stop supporting why would you support a Game that makes half content that you Love and half content that you hate and not support a Game that has all content that you Love
I Hope you can understand my point my english is not very good.
like mixing a fighting Game whit a Game that your characters try to avoid violence
that is actually quite common. a game where your character can chose between violence and non violence to solve a problem. be it sneaking, negotiation or other options.
moral dilemmas are also a thing. remember bioshock. where you could chose how to treat the little sisters.
i agree that it is not wise to try to attract fans of all genres.
but i wonder why there seem to be very little games that have the plot device of a good and a bad ending for the love interests. winning for the mc is getting the girl. losing for the mc is, when the girl choses someone else. i am playing a game after all, and not watching a movie.
Enrich the AVN scene? The majority thinks it's just fine the way it is. There's a reason why NTR is treated the way it is, because it is the fucking plague whether you like that or not. It is a niche fetish in an already niche market.
i just went to an adult site. for science. setting the location for usa, just to be sure.
the current ranking of that site was:
family (sure explains all the incest games)
around 30 "regular" nieches.
cuckold.
around 120 other nieches.
so, no, i do not agree that ntr is nieche and therefore hated. i think it is of immersion and projecting into the mc, so every other dick in the game makes the player uncomfortable.
the plague is incest. patreon bans it, so it feels like every second game on itch has landladies and roommates banging. ntr is not that commonly seen, but on every ntr game, the haters flock and give it popularty. like closeted gays would publicly hate on gay stuff.
there is not even consens what ntr is and what is not.
is a threeway ntr? no, it is not.
is casual sex outside of an exclusive relationship cheating? no, it is not.
is regular cheating servicing the cuckold fetish? no, it does not. you need the cheated husband watch while his wife gets banged in front of him. bonus points for humiliation and other things i shall not mention.
there needs to be another word for so called ntr. maybe a simple dick counter. how many different dicks does a smut game show? (excluding gay games)
0 -> lesbian or even sfw
1 -> ntr haters go there
2+ -> complex games be here. ranging over actual story whithout mindless sex dolls that vow sexual loyalty to the mc, flashbacks, group sex, multiple pov, bad endings where someone else gets the girl, futa, and so on, up to the dreaded cucking/ntr scenarios.
what ticks me off, that most ntr hate is for games in #2 that are actually not cuck games. and even if they are, what's the point. it makes as much sense as going to a lesbian game and complaining about lack of a male mc.
This is more of a full-price NTR game with a tiny bit of a harem. It would be most logical to completely remove the harem and continue exclusively with the NTR route.
Thanks for the feedback! Our idea is to have multiple routes with different endings: Harem ending, NTR ending... it's the first release and the game can still change a lot. The next update will be all clear on which way we want the story to go.
for a successful game of the mixed genre harem-ntr the content of the harem part should be 100% a couple of examples "Love and Sex: Second Base" "The Power of Vacuum" otherwise there is no point in spending money on a game of the harem genre and getting not a whole game but a cut piece. Of course ntr should be completely avoidable
If you really want to make a harem route with a harem ending I recommend that the NTR disable button means it doesn't happen, otherwise you'll have a route that no one will follow.
Hi dev, a question, in the planned tags when you say "and many more" what do you mean?
I ask because it seems that previously you also had the ntr tag included but it seems that you modified the description, is that type of content going to be present in the game as well and if so is it avoidable (it does not happen in the story according to the player's decision) ?
Yes, I agree with that haha, in this case the game will have netorare and surely sharing with the Mc's friend you know to fill the BBC trope, when starting the game there is a warning about the content, but the funny thing is that if you decide to avoid that content you will be missing part of the story, I don't know what the dev means by that, if the player misses important parts of the story in general or what.
Hi! We meant that if you choose to avoid such content, you will not be able to view certain scenes. It was a mistake “loseparts of the story”. Sorry about that!
If I don't want NTR, I don't want it to happen.If it happens and I don't see it, it's just as bad or even worse. So it's good to know this so I can avoid the game.
if you disable that content what exactly does that mean does it have direct impact on the story where its an alternate version of events or is it just hiding the scene but everything still plays the same way? Also how much harem vs ntr content do you plan will they be even or more of one of them?
If you disable that content, all choices that lead to NTR routes of the story will be locked. They are alternate version of events. Choices have an impact on the story, the story is not linear so there are different events and endings for each route. If a player does not want to follow a NTR route, he can do so. Harem is planned to be one of the endings of the game, so there will be more NTR content than harem.
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The game is a fucking cuckfest don't even bother trying it.
Another dev that think they can mix harem with cuck content, what else in you itinerary dev? cure cancer?
also in this, it was clear that cuck (call it as it is) was the primary content, harem tag are just to bait harem fans to spend money. (dev's own words)
harem and cheating are not mutual exclusive. actually, harem does just mean that the male mc cheats a lot on his love interests with other girls.
and most harem games are not so much harem games, but having a lot of friends with benefits. i do not see exclusivity coming into such relationships by default. so "cheating" is not a concept to apply.
real cuck games are rare. pandoras box comes to mind. go there for the cucking experience.
I think dev you already kinda destroyed your game with the bait that you did ,harem and ntr doesn't bode well choose one route and stay with that but this way you only gonna screw yourself and loose potentional followers it's up to you but a lot of people are thinking the same thing and i completely understand them it happened quite a lot on diffrent games but i wish you luck none the less
No, dev. For too long the AVN scene has been under this false dichotomy, that games must exclusively focus on NTR, or not feature it at all. No other tag or "flavour" is treated like this. Imagine if this applied to anal, cheating, incest, BDSM, MILFs, or any other kink widely present in vanilla harem games without isssue.
You are entitled to have NTR be present in your game as just one more flavor, without being pushed to removing it, or focusing your entire game on it to include it. More than that, I feel such games being made would enrich the AVN scene, and allow it to "heal" from this malady it suffers, where NTR is treated as the plague.
I hate unavoidable things as much as one can dislike them, but when players are given the choice to get or avoid each piece of content, I feel they should simply shut up and play.
I rather when games Focus in doing one thing very good than when they try to make everything poorly.
Also mixim harem and NTR is like mixing a fighting Game whit a Game that your characters try to avoid violence is very contradictory also if you make a Game whit two different paths is like trying to make 2 games at the same time very hard and not Talk whit the problem when one update Focus more in one path than others then the people that his favorites path he is gonna get angey and stop supporting why would you support a Game that makes half content that you Love and half content that you hate and not support a Game that has all content that you Love
I Hope you can understand my point my english is not very good.
that is actually quite common. a game where your character can chose between violence and non violence to solve a problem. be it sneaking, negotiation or other options.
moral dilemmas are also a thing. remember bioshock. where you could chose how to treat the little sisters.
i agree that it is not wise to try to attract fans of all genres.
but i wonder why there seem to be very little games that have the plot device of a good and a bad ending for the love interests. winning for the mc is getting the girl. losing for the mc is, when the girl choses someone else. i am playing a game after all, and not watching a movie.
Enrich the AVN scene? The majority thinks it's just fine the way it is. There's a reason why NTR is treated the way it is, because it is the fucking plague whether you like that or not. It is a niche fetish in an already niche market.
i just went to an adult site. for science. setting the location for usa, just to be sure.
the current ranking of that site was:
family (sure explains all the incest games)
around 30 "regular" nieches.
cuckold.
around 120 other nieches.
so, no, i do not agree that ntr is nieche and therefore hated. i think it is of immersion and projecting into the mc, so every other dick in the game makes the player uncomfortable.
the plague is incest. patreon bans it, so it feels like every second game on itch has landladies and roommates banging. ntr is not that commonly seen, but on every ntr game, the haters flock and give it popularty. like closeted gays would publicly hate on gay stuff.
there is not even consens what ntr is and what is not.
is a threeway ntr? no, it is not.
is casual sex outside of an exclusive relationship cheating? no, it is not.
is regular cheating servicing the cuckold fetish? no, it does not. you need the cheated husband watch while his wife gets banged in front of him. bonus points for humiliation and other things i shall not mention.
there needs to be another word for so called ntr. maybe a simple dick counter. how many different dicks does a smut game show? (excluding gay games)
0 -> lesbian or even sfw
1 -> ntr haters go there
2+ -> complex games be here. ranging over actual story whithout mindless sex dolls that vow sexual loyalty to the mc, flashbacks, group sex, multiple pov, bad endings where someone else gets the girl, futa, and so on, up to the dreaded cucking/ntr scenarios.
what ticks me off, that most ntr hate is for games in #2 that are actually not cuck games. and even if they are, what's the point. it makes as much sense as going to a lesbian game and complaining about lack of a male mc.
Will there be android?
Not for this release. Probably V. 0.2.
Ok
This is more of a full-price NTR game with a tiny bit of a harem. It would be most logical to completely remove the harem and continue exclusively with the NTR route.
Thanks for the feedback! Our idea is to have multiple routes with different endings: Harem ending, NTR ending... it's the first release and the game can still change a lot. The next update will be all clear on which way we want the story to go.
for a successful game of the mixed genre harem-ntr the content of the harem part should be 100% a couple of examples "Love and Sex: Second Base" "The Power of Vacuum" otherwise there is no point in spending money on a game of the harem genre and getting not a whole game but a cut piece. Of course ntr should be completely avoidable
Pregnancy big belly 🤤😏
If you really want to make a harem route with a harem ending I recommend that the NTR disable button means it doesn't happen, otherwise you'll have a route that no one will follow.
Into the trash with your bait
Thanks but no thanks
Very ntr and sharing focused, I don't see this being a harem game.
The dev is hoping people are stupid enough to fall for the tag bait.
Hi dev, a question, in the planned tags when you say "and many more" what do you mean?
I ask because it seems that previously you also had the ntr tag included but it seems that you modified the description, is that type of content going to be present in the game as well and if so is it avoidable (it does not happen in the story according to the player's decision) ?
Thanks, good luck.
Only NTR that's good with Harem is Netori. Already very bad, our friend is ogling mc's mom. NTR/S and harem don't go together
Yes, I agree with that haha, in this case the game will have netorare and surely sharing with the Mc's friend you know to fill the BBC trope, when starting the game there is a warning about the content, but the funny thing is that if you decide to avoid that content you will be missing part of the story, I don't know what the dev means by that, if the player misses important parts of the story in general or what.
Hi! We meant that if you choose to avoid such content, you will not be able to view certain scenes. It was a mistake “lose parts of the story”. Sorry about that!
If I don't want NTR, I don't want it to happen. If it happens and I don't see it, it's just as bad or even worse. So it's good to know this so I can avoid the game.
if you disable that content what exactly does that mean does it have direct impact on the story where its an alternate version of events or is it just hiding the scene but everything still plays the same way? Also how much harem vs ntr content do you plan will they be even or more of one of them?
If you disable that content, all choices that lead to NTR routes of the story will be locked. They are alternate version of events. Choices have an impact on the story, the story is not linear so there are different events and endings for each route. If a player does not want to follow a NTR route, he can do so. Harem is planned to be one of the endings of the game, so there will be more NTR content than harem.